¿alguno ha cambiado el aceite bastante antes de los 30000?

[jabicho]

Yo tampoco pienso cambiarselo antes de que cumpla dos años ni de coña, eso es tirar el aceite...y el dinero, como dice Deymos el coche lleva un sensor de aceite prescisamente para avisar de cuando este pierde propiedades, la gente todavía cree que estos aceites son como los de antes...

[lomoi]

deymos, el aceite está preparado para 30.0000 km, pero no está igual con 15.000km que con 30.000km, eso sólo hay k verlo, lo negro k keda si lo apuras.... con 30.000 mantiene propiedades mínimas, si lo cambias antes, el coche tiene un aceite con mejores propiedades, por lo tanto estará más protegido, es de lógica, vamos, al menos yo lo veo así y veo cómo están los aceites cambiados antes de lo recomendado y los aceites apurados y ya ni te digo los pasados de km

[Nes37]

Yo os planteo otra duda que también he dejado en el foro A5.

Ya se lo que recomienda la marca en cuanto al cambio de aciete (long life y 30.000 km), pero por manías mías pienso cambiarselo cada 15.000 km, que por otra parte con los kilómetros que hago al año será casi cada dos años.

 

Entonces, puestos a cambiar aceite cada 15.000 km... ¿el mejor aceite sigue siendo long life o para este kilometraje incluso hay aceites mejores, pensando en las propias propiedades del aceite y en la conservación del motor?.

 

Un saludo

[Robertito]

Yo tambien cumpliré antes los dos años que los 30.000 km, asi que lo tengo facil.

 

Xaludos

 

PD: En 7 meses no llego a 6.000 km

[deymos]

Mirad esto, esta sacado de un pdf de castrol, para VW. El tema de long life explicado.

Os traduzco varios trozos.

 

 

LongLife Servicing and Castrol SLX LongLife II

 

How advanced engineering and oil has changed the way your Volkswagen is serviced.

LongLife Service Regimes

The LongLife Service Regime is so called because there are no set service intervals and, depending on

how you drive your vehicle and the conditions of use, a service will be required anywhere between 9,000

miles or 12 months (whichever occurs first), up to a maximum of 30,000* miles or 24 months (whichever

occurs first)

 

Dependiendo de la forma de conducir, puede durar hasta un maximo de 30000km o 2 años

 

This LongLife regime has been made possible due to the development of new Volkswagen engines with

the latest technically advanced longlife oil. These engines use built-in sensors that continually monitor the

oil quality, making it possible to enjoy reliable and confident motoring for up to a maximum of 30,000*

miles or 24 months (whichever occurs first)

 

Los nuevos motores llevan instalados sensores que monitorizan la calidad del aceite, haciendo posible saber si el aceite es valido.

 

* The maximum of 30000 miles is for the 3 and 4 cylinder TDI diesel engine. All other diesel and petrol

engines have a lower maximum mileage. Please consult your Volkswagen Retailer or repairer for full

information.

 

It’s your choice.

All new Volkswagen cars (except the Lupo) are now manufactured with the LongLife service regime

activated and the engine filled with longlife oil. However, your car is also capable of being serviced at a

more traditional time of 12 months or 10000 miles (which ever occurs first). This regime is known as

Time/Distance or Fixed for the Lupo.

Your Retailer will explain both systems and can reset your car to the Time/Distance regime at the Pre

Delivery Inspection.

El vendedor/marca, puede resetear el contador de regimen, todos los nuevos vw estan fabricados con este longlife regimen.

 

Whichever regime you choose, the vehicle dashboard service indicator will remind you when the service

is due. With the Time/Distance regime this will be around 10000 mile or 12 months (which ever occurs

first). With the LongLife service regime it could be anywhere between 9,000 miles or 12 months up to a

maximum of 30,000* miles or 24 months, depending on the engine.

Sin long life, cada 10000 km o 12 meses, tienes que cambiarlo, con long life está entre 30000 millas ???!??!?!?!?! o 24 meses

 

What LongLife Servicing can mean to you Que significado tiene longlife?.

• Fewer visits to your Retailer or repairers workshop. Menos visitas al taller.

• Lower lifetime service costs Ahorro de dinero!!.

• Less oil to dispose of, which is kinder to the environment.

• Fuel saving. Ahorro combustible

 

Your Retailer has a computer calculation that can illustrate the likely savings you will make on both the

maintenance of your vehicle and the fuel bill using the LongLife and Time/Distance regimes.

Castrol SLX LongLife II Engine Oil.

Castrol SLX LongLife II is a fully synthetic engine oil formulated to satisfy the requirements of the

Volkswagen LongLife service regime.

Not only is Castrol SLX LongLife II capable of meeting the demands of longer service intervals for

both petrol and diesel engines, it is also one of the few oils that is approved to the Volkswagen

Group standard for the latest generation of the ‘Pump Duse’ or PD direct injection diesel engines.

Castrol SLX LongLife II top up kits.

In the event you need to top up the engine oil between services Castrol have a Check it Kit containing: -

• 1 litre of Castrol SLX LongLife II

• Dip stick wipe

• Disposable gloves

• Disposable funnel

• Contained a black vinyl case attachable to the luggage compartment lining.

So now you can easily check your oil level and ensure that the correct oil is used

These kits are available from you Volkswagen retailer.

Answers to the most frequently asked questions.

 

Is the LongLife regime more expensive than the more traditional Time/Distance regime? Aqui se dice que el aceite es mas caro, pero visitas menos el taller

No. The basic service cost hasn’t changed, so because you need fewer services, you will save money.

However, longlife oil is more expensive than conventional oil. So, if you choose the LongLife regime,

there will be a corresponding increase in the cost of the oil replaced during a service. Importantly this

increased cost must be seen in context. Over a period the reduced number of services means that the

cost of ownership nearly always comes down.

Your Retailer has a computer calculation that can illustrate the likely savings you will make on both the

maintenance of your vehicle and the fuel bill.

What is LongLife oil?

LongLife oil is an high grade, fully synthetic oil with increased resistance to ageing high temperatures.

They are generally designated SAE OW-30, but must meet Volkswagen standards

Most major manufactures produce oils conforming to standards 50300/50600, but Castrol SLX LongLife II

is one of the few oils approved and recommended by Volkswagen to the 50601 standard and must be

used in the diesel PD engine that is on the LongLife service regime.

Do I have to use longlife oil all the time?

Yes, if you want to take advantage of the LongLife service regime.

Please note that if the engine is topped up with more than ½ litre of non-longlife oil between services, the

service indicator will come on earlier and the time or distance between services will be reduced.

Can I really save money on my fuel bill?

Yes. Extensive tests carried out by Volkswagen have demonstrated that be using Castrol SLX LongLife II

and the LongLife service regime can produce a saving of an average of 2.72% against your existing fuel

bill where a standard oil is used.

Your Retailer has a computer calculation that can illustrate the likely savings you will make on both the

maintenance of your vehicle and the fuel bill.

If I am on the LongLife service regime, I might not have my car serviced for up to 2 years; will this

affect my warranty?

No, the warranty covers against defects of manufacture. However, if a component fails due to your car

not being serviced to the Volkswagen recommendations, then this is not covered by the warranty.

I am concerned that my car can be used on the road for 2 years without any safety checks.

Many components are far longer lasting than they used to be. The front brake pads are electronically

monitored, as is the engine oil level. The battery is maintenance free. Tyres are the most vulnerable item

and you have an obligation to check these on a regular basis.

The instruction manual explains that the service indicator can be reset via the trip display button.

This is correct. However, if this resetting method is used, the service regime will automatically change to

Time/Distance. Segun las condiciones el regimen de servicio cambiará

 

I am not sure what service regime is best for me.

The choice or regime can be dependent on how the car is driven and the conditions of use and it is

impossible to state any hard and fast rules. However, it you are not sure Volkswagen recommends that

your car be left set to the factories default of the LongLife regime. (After all you have paid for the

technology and the longlife oil in the price of the car) Wait until the service indicator tells you that the 1st

service is due. Then discuss with your Volkswagen Retailer or repairer the best regime to adopt. To help

you identify which regime might be best for you, please refer to the following guidance.

LongLife Regime.

Guia para sacar el mejor rendimiento, segun estilo de conduccion

 

To obtain the most benefit from the LongLife service regime, the car should to be generally driven in a

style/condition of use listed below

• Mainly longer distance journeys.

• Limited number of cold starts, engine is kept at operating temperature over a longer period of time.

• Daily mileage above approx. 25 miles.

• Constant speed.

• Vehicle used regularly.

Time/Distance Regime.

 

Cosas que acortan la vida del aceite, y el sensor restará km Acelerar y frenar bruscamente, conduccion en cuidad, muchos arranques en frio, subidas frecuentes de puertos

It your is driven in a style of use listed below, it may make sense to opt for the Time/Distance regime.

• Extremely uneconomical driving style ie continual maximum acceleration ie "foot to floor"

• Vehicle fully loaded

• Mainly short journeys.

• Frequent cold starts.

• Frequent hill climbs.

• Frequent towing.

• City Centre driving

For further information concerning the servicing regimes, please consult your Volkswagen Retailer or

repairer for full details.

Please note that all mileage’s are approximate as the service indicator system uses kilometres as the

distance measurement.

May 2003.

Editado 27 de Diciembre del 2009 por deymos

[deymos]

Es decir, long life no significan 30000km , depende de como conduzcamos, y con la tecnologia actual, no hay que cambiarlo hasta que el coche no lo diga, nada tiene que ver el color del aceite, como se menciona, lo importante son las propiedades del mismo.

 

A mi 30000km no me dá el coche, me dá en total unos 27000km, y no lo cambiaré antes.

 

 

 

Para los que os gusta cambiar el aceite cada 15.000km os recomendaría aceite 5W30 mas economica, castrol, por ejemplo pero NO long life, tambien segun he podido leer la diferencia entre ambos en composicion, son componentes quimicos para dar durabilidad de propiedades, es decir, si lo cambiais antes desaprobechais el aceite y el dinero...

 

En los foros BWM hay mucha informacion sobre esto, y se recomienda a la mayoria que les gusta cambiar el aceite antes, castrol o mobil 1 , no LL (long life) ... ya cada uno...

 

Esto es como cambiar la correa de distribucion en vez de a los 160.000 a los 80.000, si la correa va preparada para 160.000 km.....

Editado 28 de Diciembre del 2009 por deymos