Mando de calefaccion estacionaria

[Johny01]

Tengo calfeacción estacionaria original instalada en mi A6 del 2007 con un mando a distancia para ponerla desde lejos del coche.

 

El caso es que últimamente no me funciona el mando. He probado cerca, lejos, apuntando con la entena hacia todos lados. He cambiado las pias en dos ocasiones y solo al principio de ponerlas funcionaba, y cuando quería.

 

Cuando pulso a alguno de los 2 botones para ponerla o quitarla me envía una señal de error de parapadeo rojo en el mando de unos 4 encedidos de luz por segundo durante 10 segundos que significa que la señal no ha llegado al coche.

 

He comprobado que la calefacción estacionaria funciona correctamente desde el panel del clima. Solo me quedan decasrtar tres cosas.

 

- Que el mando este defectuoso

- Que la unidad receptora del coche este defectuosa

- Que no esten bien enlazados el uno con el otro

 

He estado mirando en el Elsawin y en la Wiki de Rosstech y no dice como. ¿Alguien sabe como enlazar estos mandos ya sea con VagCom o de otra manera?

 

¿Qué más puedo hacer?

 

Un saludo

[Johny01]

Me semi contesto a mi mismo.

 

Descarto que esté mal enlazado el mando y el coche ya que despues de probar cienes y cienes de veces, ha funcionado una de esas veces (caso esporadico que no se ha vuelto a repetir.

 

He comprobado los errores y no da ningún error. He comprobado las conexiones del aparato receptor (este se situa en el maletero al lado del MMI) y des pues de mover y sacar y poner el conector sigue sin funcionar. Además he recivido un error en el Vag-Com referente a esa desconexión que he hecho. Por esto creo que voy a descartar que sea el modulo receptor.

 

Despues de las leches que he peagao al mando contra el suelo fruto de mi torpeza durante el tiempo que tengo el coche, creo que me toca comprar otro mando que, según el ETKA, sale por 138,50 € + IVA

 

Por otro lado creo que he averiguado como se enlazan y explico el proceso para quien lo necesite. Yo lo he intentado por si acaso pero creo que con mi mando "escacharrao" no puedo ser capaz de hacerlo:

 

 

VAGCOM (en mi caso VCDS 812)

 

Vamos a Select. Selecionamos el modulo 18 (creo que se llama Aux. Heating). Dentro de dicha centralita seleccionamos Basic Setting. Dentro nos vamos al canal 004. En la parte de arriba, al menos en mi caso, sale un boton que pone ON/OFF/NEXT. Lo pulsamos y tenemos 5 segundos para pulsar el boton OFF del mando de la calefación estacionaria. Entonces en el primer indicador debería aparecer "learnt" o "not learnt". En el primer caso ya estaría, y en el segundo habría que repetir el proceso.

 

Os dejo el texto orginial que he sacado de Audi Portal en ingles:

 

 

 

"ECU 18

 

Basic setting (adaption) of a hand-held transmitter for radio remote control to the auxiliary heater

 

 

Channel 004

 

-By way of this channel up to 3 hand-held transmitters for radio remote control operations can be adapted (taught-in) to the auxiliary heater (the auxiliary heater radio receiver -R64-).

 

- If within about 5 sec. of connection of the voltage supply the -Off- button on a remote control is pressed, the button may be unintentionally taught-in regardless of the version of the additional heater control unit -J364-.

 

J Readout: "learnt" or "not learnt"

-If "learnt" appears, at least one remote hand-held transmitter has already been successfully adapted.

-If "not learnt" appears, no remote hand-held transmitter has yet been successfully adapted or the last adaption was not successful.

-If "Wait" appears, no remote hand-held transmitter has yet been successfully adapted.

-Activate the function by tapping the "Activate" button on the display of the tester

-The readout changes shortly afterwards to "Learning" or "Wait", if no hand-held transmitter has yet been adapted.

 

J Readout: "Learning" or "Wait", if no hand-held transmitter has yet been adapted.

-The additional heater control unit -J364- sends the "Learning" information to the auxiliary heater radio receiver -R64.

-The auxiliary heater radio receiver -R64 waits for a signal from the hand-held transmitter for the auxiliary heater radio remote control.

-Within 5 seconds press the Off button on the hand-held transmitter of the radio remote control. Make sure you are far enough away from the vehicle-mounted aerial

(If the radio signal is too strong reception problems may occur.

 

Mask over the transmitting aerial with your hand or some other object or keep a minimum distance of 10 metres away from the vehicle).

 

J Readout: "Learnt" (or "Detected").

-The radio signal from the auxiliary heater remote hand-held transmitter has been detected and successfully learnt.

-Confirm the "Learnt" or "Detected" readout as appropriate by tapping the "Save/Apply" button on the display of the tester (not always shown).

-Quit the "Basic setting" function by pressing the < button (at the bottom left on the display of the tester).

-Select the "Basic setting" function again (if you want to adapt a second radio remote control hand-held transmitter

-Quit the auxiliary heater self-diagnosis.

-Check the activation of the auxiliary heater by the radio remote control (e.g. by reading measured value block "006" in the additional heater control unit -J364). The mode of the auxiliary heater: "auxiliary heating" or "auxiliary ventilation" is dependent on the pre-set specified and actual measured temperature in the passenger compartment (indicated on the Climatronic control unit -J255 and based on those values the Climatronic control unit -J255- sets the mode).

 

J Readout: "Not learnt" (the radio signal from the hand-held transmitter of the auxiliary heater radio remote control was not detected, the hand-held transmitter could not be adapted).

- Check the radio remote control hand-held transmitter, only a hand-held transmitter of type "T90" can be adapted.

- Check the batteries in the remote transmitter.

-Repeat the adaption (a pre-set time may not have been allowed exactly).

 

Procedure:

-Quit the "Basic setting" function by pressing the < button (at the bottom left on the display of the tester).

- Quit the "Self-diagnosis" function as necessary completely and disconnect the tester from the vehicle.

-Select the "Basic setting" function again and repeat the adaption from the beginning.

 

If the second adaption was also not successful:

-Check the integration of the auxiliary heater radio receiver -R64 in the aerial system of the vehicle

-Check the voltage supply and the earth connection to the auxiliary heater radio receiver

-R64 (according to the current flow diagram).

-Check the connection from the auxiliary heater radio receiver -R64 to the additional heater control unit -J364.

 

J If it is not possible in some vehicles to adapt the radio remote control in the "Basic setting" function with the vehicle diagnostic, testing and information system -VAS 5051 A- and the vehicle diagnostic and service information system -VAS 5052- (in the "Self-diagnosis" and "Guided Fault Finding" functions), In these vehicles, adapt radio remote control as follows:

- Cut the voltage supply to the additional heater control unit -J364- and to the auxiliary heater radio receiver -R64- for min. 1 min.

- Restore the voltage supply.

- Within 5 sec. press the Off button on the auxiliary heater hand-held remote control transmitter for at least 3 seconds so the control unit can setect the radio signal.

- Interrogate the fault memory of the auxiliary heater and clear any fault entries stored in it.

-Check the activation of the auxiliary heater by the radio remote control (e.g. by reading measured value block display groups "006" and "010" in the additional heater control unit -J364).

 

YZ Note

 

J If the procedure for adaption of a radio remote control hand-held transmitter is not followed precisely, the auxiliary heater radio receiver -R64- (by way of the additional heater control unit -J364) will not store an adapted transmitter, and it may be that no more transmitters can be adapted without first quitting the auxiliary heater self-diagnosis, disconnecting the tester from the vehicle and restarting self-diagnosis from the beginning.

 

J If there is more than one auxiliary heater radio remote control hand-held transmitter, perform the basic setting for each one in the same way.

 

J At present a maximum of 3 radio remote controls can be adapted. If a fifth remote transmitter is adapted, -R64- deletes the first transmitters adapted.

 

J The radio remote control hand-held transmitter is adapted in the auxiliary heater radio receiver -R64. To enable this "Adaption" function to be performed without a tester in production, the auxiliary heater radio receiver -R64 stores a radio signal, if one is received, from a hand-held transmitter, within 5 seconds of the voltage supply being connected."

 

 

Un saludo y espero que sea util a alguien.

[TourisT]

gracias por la información , puede ser muy util

[demon]

y se puede poner este sistema a posteriori? , sabeis las piezas que se necesits?

[TourisT]

es que la estufa va escondida por el compartimento motor

luego tendrá conexión al gasoleo, a la electrónica, climatización, receptor de antena....

yo lo veo muy complicado