jesus20329 Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Denunciar Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Bueno esto es lo que he conseguido copiar, no he podido hacer una grafica, es lo que tiene ser informatico-torpe Tuesday,28,August,2012,18:39:22:16803,VCDS Version: Release 11.11.4,Data version: 20120807 028 906 021 CE,,1.9l R4 EDC G00SG 0803, ,Group A:,'001,,,,Group B:,'003,,,,Group C:,'011 ,,RPM,Inj. Quantity,Voltage,Temperature,,RPM,Mass Air / Rev.,Mass Air / Rev.,Duty Cycle,,RPM,Absolute Pres.,Absolute Pres.,Duty Cycle ,TIME,,,,,TIME,,,,,TIME,,,, Marker,STAMP, /min, mg/str, V,°C,STAMP, /min, mg/str, mg/str, %,STAMP, /min, mbar, mbar, % ,0.78,861,4.0,1.560,60.3,0.01,861,280.0,455.0,4.8,0.39,861,989.4,1009.8,24.7 ,1.95,861,3.8,1.600,61.2,1.17,861,280.0,465.0,4.8,1.56,861,989.4,1009.8,24.7 ,3.12,861,3.8,1.600,61.2,2.34,861,280.0,455.0,4.8,2.73,861,989.4,1009.8,24.7 ,4.29,861,3.8,1.660,61.2,3.51,840,285.0,455.0,4.8,3.90,861,989.4,1009.8,24.7 ,5.46,861,3.8,1.620,61.2,4.68,861,280.0,475.0,4.8,5.07,861,989.4,1009.8,24.7 ,6.63,861,3.6,1.580,61.2,5.85,861,280.0,460.0,4.8,6.24,840,989.4,1009.8,24.7 ,7.80,861,4.0,1.620,61.2,7.02,861,280.0,460.0,4.8,7.41,861,989.4,1009.8,24.7 ,8.97,1008,9.4,1.960,61.2,8.19,861,280.0,455.0,4.8,8.58,861,989.4,1009.8,24.7 ,217.86,2163,8.8,1.700,84.6,218.24,2184,445.0,560.0,59.8,217.47,2142,1030.2,1091.4,51.8 ,219.02,2247,8.2,1.720,84.6,219.42,2121,250.0,525.0,4.8,218.63,2226,1111.8,1173.0,58.2 ,220.19,1554,14.6,2.040,84.6,220.58,1596,525.0,595.0,33.5,219.80,1638,989.4,1091.4,45.4 ,221.36,1596,5.8,1.620,84.6,221.75,1617,280.0,550.0,59.8,220.97,1596,1071.0,1213.8,47.4 ,222.53,1638,6.4,1.700,84.6,222.92,1638,295.0,560.0,59.8,222.14,1617,1009.8,1142.4,43.0 ,223.70,1638,3.4,1.580,85.5,224.09,1638,255.0,550.0,59.8,223.31,1638,989.4,1142.4,44.2 ,224.87,1659,3.4,1.520,85.5,225.26,1659,250.0,520.0,4.8,224.48,1638,989.4,1111.8,45.8 ,226.04,1638,3.4,0.680,85.5,226.43,1638,260.0,535.0,40.6,225.65,1659,989.4,1081.2,46.2 ,227.21,1575,0.0,1.360,85.5,227.60,1638,255.0,520.0,23.1,226.82,1638,989.4,1081.2,45.8 ,228.38,1617,3.4,1.460,85.5,228.78,1596,260.0,525.0,59.8,227.99,1617,989.4,1081.2,45.4 ,229.56,1596,3.4,1.400,85.5,229.94,1554,250.0,530.0,4.8,229.16,1596,989.4,1081.2,45.4 ,230.72,1554,3.4,1.460,85.5,231.11,1554,260.0,525.0,59.8,230.33,1575,989.4,1071.0,45.4 ,231.89,1533,3.4,1.460,85.5,232.28,1512,260.0,525.0,59.8,231.50,1533,989.4,1081.2,45.0 ,233.06,1491,5.8,1.660,85.5,233.45,1491,325.0,525.0,59.8,232.67,1491,989.4,1071.0,45.0 ,234.24,1512,33.2,2.940,86.4,234.62,1554,850.0,750.0,4.8,233.84,1512,1948.2,1101.6,32.7 ,235.40,1638,42.0,3.360,86.4,235.79,1680,850.0,1020.0,4.8,235.01,1575,1978.8,1560.6,37.5 ,236.57,1785,44.0,3.620,86.4,236.96,1827,850.0,980.0,4.8,236.18,1743,1989.0,2050.2,61.4 ,237.74,1932,43.8,3.680,86.4,238.13,1974,850.0,930.0,4.8,237.35,1869,1989.0,1907.4,56.6 ,238.91,2058,45.2,3.740,86.4,239.30,2121,850.0,980.0,4.8,238.52,2016,1989.0,1887.0,57.0 ,240.08,2205,44.8,3.840,86.4,240.47,2247,850.0,995.0,4.8,239.69,2163,1989.0,1958.4,57.0 ,241.25,2331,44.6,3.840,86.4,241.64,2373,850.0,980.0,4.8,240.86,2289,1989.0,2009.4,60.6 ,242.42,2457,44.4,3.940,87.3,242.81,2499,850.0,965.0,4.8,242.03,2415,1989.0,2029.8,63.0 ,243.59,2604,43.8,3.920,87.3,243.98,2646,850.0,940.0,4.8,243.20,2562,1989.0,1968.6,61.8 ,244.76,2709,43.2,3.960,87.3,245.15,2751,850.0,925.0,4.8,244.37,2667,1989.0,1978.8,61.8 ,245.93,2835,42.6,4.000,87.3,246.32,2877,850.0,910.0,4.8,245.54,2793,1989.0,1989.0,61.4 ,247.10,2940,42.2,4.020,88.2,247.49,2982,850.0,900.0,4.8,246.71,2919,1989.0,1968.6,60.6 ,248.27,3066,41.6,4.040,88.2,248.66,3087,850.0,880.0,4.8,247.88,3024,1989.0,1968.6,59.8 ,249.44,3171,41.6,4.060,89.1,249.83,3192,850.0,870.0,4.8,249.05,3129,1989.0,1968.6,58.6 ,250.61,3255,41.4,4.160,90.0,251.00,3297,850.0,865.0,4.8,250.22,3234,1989.0,1978.8,60.2 ,251.79,3360,41.4,4.140,90.0,252.17,3381,850.0,860.0,4.8,251.39,3318,1989.0,1989.0,60.6 ,252.95,3444,41.2,4.160,90.9,253.34,3486,850.0,850.0,4.8,252.56,3423,1989.0,1999.2,60.6 ,254.12,3528,41.2,4.200,91.8,254.51,3570,850.0,845.0,4.8,253.74,3507,1989.0,1989.0,61.0 ,255.29,3612,41.0,4.160,91.8,255.69,3633,850.0,825.0,4.8,254.90,3591,1989.0,1978.8,61.4 ,256.47,3696,41.0,4.180,92.7,256.85,3717,850.0,825.0,4.8,256.07,3675,1989.0,1978.8,61.0 ,257.63,3759,40.8,4.120,93.6,258.02,3801,850.0,815.0,4.8,257.24,3738,1989.0,1978.8,61.0 ,258.80,3843,40.8,4.160,94.5,259.19,3864,850.0,820.0,4.8,258.42,3801,1989.0,1999.2,62.2 ,259.97,3906,40.2,4.080,95.4,260.36,3906,850.0,805.0,4.8,259.58,3885,1989.0,1999.2,63.0 ,261.15,3948,40.6,4.040,95.4,261.53,3969,850.0,805.0,4.8,260.75,3927,1989.0,1999.2,63.4 ,262.31,4011,39.8,4.080,96.3,262.70,4032,850.0,790.0,4.8,261.92,3990,1989.0,1989.0,64.1 ,263.48,4053,39.4,3.960,97.2,263.87,4074,850.0,775.0,4.8,263.10,4032,1989.0,1978.8,63.8 ,264.65,4116,38.8,3.920,97.2,265.04,4116,850.0,780.0,4.8,264.26,4095,1989.0,1958.4,63.0 ,265.83,4158,38.4,3.960,98.1,266.21,4179,850.0,770.0,4.8,265.43,4137,1989.0,1989.0,63.4 ,266.99,4200,38.0,3.960,98.1,267.38,4221,850.0,770.0,4.8,266.60,4179,1989.0,1978.8,63.0 ,268.16,4242,36.8,3.840,99.0,268.55,4242,850.0,745.0,4.8,267.77,4221,1948.2,1958.4,63.8 ,269.33,4263,35.4,3.820,99.0,269.72,4284,850.0,735.0,4.8,268.94,4263,1917.6,1917.6,64.9 ,270.50,3528,0.0,0.680,99.9,270.90,3003,255.0,445.0,4.8,270.11,4221,1081.2,1897.2,59.8 ,271.67,3360,0.0,0.680,99.9,272.06,3297,260.0,405.0,4.8,271.28,3402,1050.6,1111.8,59.8 ,272.84,3129,0.0,0.680,100.8,273.23,3087,255.0,410.0,4.8,272.45,3213,1040.4,1071.0,59.8 ,274.01,2982,0.0,0.680,100.8,274.40,2940,255.0,420.0,4.8,273.62,3045,1030.2,1060.8,59.8 ,275.18,2961,12.2,1.720,100.8,275.57,2919,850.0,635.0,4.8,274.79,2919,1030.2,1060.8,59.0 ,276.35,2961,41.0,4.020,100.8,276.74,2982,850.0,880.0,4.8,275.96,2940,1989.0,1907.4,74.9 ,277.52,3024,41.4,4.040,100.8,277.91,3045,850.0,860.0,4.8,277.13,3003,1989.0,1917.6,61.4 ,278.69,3087,41.4,4.060,100.8,279.08,3108,850.0,860.0,4.8,278.30,3066,1989.0,1938.0,59.8 ,279.86,3150,41.2,4.100,100.8,280.25,3171,850.0,855.0,4.8,279.47,3129,1989.0,1958.4,59.0 ,281.03,3213,41.2,4.120,100.8,281.42,3234,850.0,855.0,4.8,280.64,3192,1989.0,1978.8,59.4 ,282.20,3255,29.0,3.380,100.8,282.59,3276,710.0,760.0,4.8,281.81,3255,1989.0,1978.8,56.2 ,283.37,3276,21.0,3.040,100.8,283.76,3234,260.0,480.0,4.8,282.98,3276,1968.6,1764.6,47.4 ,284.54,3234,0.0,0.680,100.8,284.93,3192,255.0,420.0,4.8,284.15,3255,1040.4,1193.4,59.8 ,285.71,3150,0.0,0.680,100.8,286.10,3129,255.0,415.0,4.8,285.32,3192,1040.4,1071.0,59.8 ,286.88,3087,0.0,0.680,100.8,287.27,3066,255.0,410.0,4.8,286.49,3108,1040.4,1060.8,59.8 ,288.05,3024,0.0,0.680,100.8,288.44,3003,255.0,430.0,4.8,287.66,3045,1030.2,1060.8,59.8 ,289.22,2940,0.0,0.680,100.8,289.61,2919,255.0,435.0,4.8,288.83,2961,1030.2,1060.8,59.4 ,290.39,2877,0.0,0.680,100.8,290.78,2856,250.0,445.0,4.8,290.00,2898,1030.2,1071.0,59.0 ,291.56,2772,0.0,0.680,100.8,291.95,2730,250.0,455.0,4.8,291.17,2814,1020.0,1071.0,58.6 ,292.73,2625,0.0,0.680,100.8,293.12,2583,250.0,465.0,4.8,292.34,2667,1009.8,1071.0,57.4 ,293.90,2520,0.0,0.700,100.8,294.29,2499,250.0,465.0,4.8,293.51,2562,1009.8,1071.0,57.0 ,295.07,2415,0.0,0.680,99.9,295.46,2352,250.0,475.0,4.8,294.68,2457,999.6,1071.0,56.2 ,296.24,2268,0.0,0.680,99.9,296.63,2226,250.0,480.0,4.8,295.85,2331,999.6,1060.8,55.0 ,297.41,2121,0.0,0.680,99.9,297.80,2058,250.0,485.0,4.8,297.02,2163,989.4,1060.8,53.0 ,298.58,1890,0.0,0.680,99.9,298.98,1827,250.0,490.0,4.8,298.19,1974,989.4,1060.8,49.4 ,396.88,1827,12.8,2.160,98.1,396.11,1722,705.0,730.0,4.8,396.49,1785,1336.2,1540.2,59.4 ,398.05,1890,19.4,2.460,98.1,397.27,1848,310.0,570.0,59.8,397.66,1869,1132.2,1213.8,47.4 ,399.22,2121,43.6,3.700,98.1,398.44,1953,645.0,730.0,59.8,398.83,2016,1989.0,1570.8,46.2 ,400.39,2457,39.6,3.700,98.1,399.61,2226,850.0,1000.0,4.8,400.00,2331,1989.0,1938.0,58.2 ,401.56,2730,37.6,3.740,98.1,400.78,2541,850.0,910.0,4.8,401.17,2646,1989.0,1917.6,59.0 ,402.73,3045,41.2,4.020,98.1,401.95,2835,850.0,960.0,4.8,402.34,2940,1989.0,2080.8,65.3 ,403.90,3339,41.0,4.140,98.1,403.12,3129,850.0,870.0,4.8,403.51,3234,1989.0,1907.4,61.4 ,405.07,3591,40.8,4.240,98.1,404.29,3423,850.0,855.0,4.8,404.68,3507,1989.0,1948.2,61.8 ,406.24,3843,40.4,4.120,98.1,405.46,3675,850.0,820.0,4.8,405.85,3759,1989.0,1958.4,61.8 ,407.41,4053,40.2,4.080,98.1,406.63,3906,850.0,825.0,4.8,407.02,3990,1989.0,1999.2,62.2 ,408.58,4263,36.4,3.900,98.1,407.80,4137,850.0,800.0,4.8,408.19,4200,1968.6,1999.2,66.9 ,409.75,4431,33.2,3.740,98.1,408.97,4326,850.0,735.0,4.8,409.36,4389,1856.4,1876.8,65.7 ,410.92,4578,28.8,3.480,98.1,410.14,4473,850.0,690.0,4.8,410.53,4536,1785.0,1785.0,66.1 ,412.09,3171,41.6,3.980,99.0,411.31,4536,850.0,580.0,4.8,411.70,3654,1989.0,1315.8,44.6 ,413.26,3255,41.4,4.120,99.0,412.48,3192,850.0,805.0,4.8,412.87,3234,1989.0,1958.4,64.1 ,414.43,3360,41.4,4.220,99.0,413.65,3297,850.0,825.0,4.8,414.04,3339,1989.0,1927.8,61.0 ,415.60,3465,41.4,4.220,99.0,414.82,3402,850.0,845.0,4.8,415.21,3423,1989.0,1978.8,61.0 ,416.77,3549,41.2,4.180,99.0,415.99,3486,850.0,840.0,4.8,416.38,3528,1989.0,1989.0,61.4 ,417.94,3633,41.2,4.180,99.9,417.16,3570,850.0,840.0,4.8,417.55,3612,1989.0,1989.0,61.4 ,419.11,3717,41.0,4.180,99.9,418.33,3654,850.0,825.0,4.8,418.72,3696,1989.0,1978.8,61.0 ,420.28,3780,40.8,4.120,99.9,419.50,3738,850.0,815.0,4.8,419.89,3759,1989.0,1989.0,61.0 ,421.45,3843,40.6,4.120,99.9,420.67,3822,850.0,810.0,4.8,421.06,3822,1989.0,1989.0,61.8 ,422.62,3906,40.6,4.140,100.8,421.84,3864,850.0,810.0,4.8,422.23,3885,1989.0,1999.2,62.6 ,423.79,3948,40.2,4.060,100.8,423.01,3927,850.0,805.0,4.8,423.40,3948,1989.0,1999.2,63.0 ,424.96,3990,39.8,4.060,100.8,424.18,3969,850.0,795.0,4.8,424.57,3990,1989.0,1989.0,63.4 ,426.13,4053,39.0,3.980,100.8,425.35,4011,850.0,785.0,4.8,425.74,4032,1989.0,1978.8,63.4 ,427.30,4074,38.8,4.020,101.7,426.52,4053,850.0,780.0,4.8,426.91,4074,1989.0,1978.8,63.8 ,428.47,4116,38.8,4.000,101.7,427.69,4095,850.0,785.0,4.8,428.08,4116,1989.0,1989.0,63.8 ,429.64,4158,38.8,4.000,101.7,428.86,4137,850.0,780.0,4.8,429.25,4158,1989.0,1989.0,64.5 ,430.81,4200,37.4,3.960,101.7,430.03,4179,850.0,770.0,4.8,430.42,4200,1978.8,1989.0,64.5 ,431.98,4242,36.4,3.940,102.6,431.20,4221,850.0,760.0,4.8,431.59,4221,1948.2,1958.4,66.1 ,433.15,4284,35.0,3.860,102.6,432.37,4242,850.0,740.0,4.8,432.76,4263,1907.4,1917.6,65.3 ,434.32,3024,0.0,0.680,102.6,433.54,4284,850.0,685.0,4.8,433.93,3633,1050.6,1397.4,59.8 ,435.49,3444,40.2,4.220,102.6,434.71,3024,850.0,500.0,4.8,435.10,3423,1989.0,1703.4,73.3 ,436.66,3486,39.4,4.120,102.6,435.88,3444,850.0,795.0,4.8,436.27,3465,1989.0,1866.6,62.2 ,437.83,3528,41.4,4.240,103.5,437.05,3486,850.0,795.0,4.8,437.44,3507,1989.0,1927.8,60.6 ,439.00,3549,41.4,4.260,103.5,438.22,3528,850.0,820.0,4.8,438.61,3549,1989.0,1989.0,61.8 ,440.17,3591,41.2,4.240,103.5,439.39,3570,850.0,830.0,4.8,439.78,3591,1989.0,1989.0,61.8 ,441.34,3633,40.4,4.240,103.5,440.56,3612,850.0,815.0,4.8,440.95,3612,1989.0,1978.8,61.8 ,442.51,3654,40.4,4.220,103.5,441.73,3633,850.0,810.0,4.8,442.12,3654,1989.0,1978.8,61.8 ,443.68,3696,40.6,4.240,103.5,442.90,3675,850.0,805.0,4.8,443.29,3675,1989.0,1989.0,61.8 ,444.85,3717,40.6,4.160,104.4,444.07,3696,850.0,815.0,4.8,444.46,3696,1989.0,1989.0,61.8 ,446.02,3738,40.2,4.180,104.4,445.24,3738,850.0,815.0,4.8,445.63,3738,1989.0,1989.0,61.4 ,447.19,3759,39.8,4.100,104.4,446.41,3738,850.0,790.0,4.8,446.80,3759,1989.0,1968.6,61.0 ,448.36,3780,39.6,4.080,104.4,447.58,3759,850.0,800.0,4.8,447.97,3780,1989.0,1978.8,60.6 ,449.53,3801,39.8,4.160,104.4,448.75,3801,850.0,780.0,4.8,449.14,3801,1989.0,1989.0,61.4 ,450.70,3822,39.6,4.040,105.3,449.92,3801,850.0,795.0,4.8,450.31,3822,1989.0,1989.0,61.4 ,451.87,3843,39.4,4.060,105.3,451.09,3822,850.0,795.0,4.8,451.48,3843,1989.0,1989.0,61.4 ,453.04,3864,39.2,4.060,105.3,452.26,3843,850.0,785.0,4.8,452.65,3843,1989.0,1989.0,61.4 ,454.21,3843,7.0,1.660,105.3,453.43,3864,850.0,795.0,4.8,453.82,3864,1611.6,1999.2,94.4 ,455.38,3759,0.0,0.700,105.3,454.60,3822,850.0,435.0,4.8,454.99,3780,1060.8,1183.2,59.8 ,456.55,3675,0.0,0.680,106.2,455.77,3738,850.0,400.0,4.8,456.16,3696,1060.8,1132.2,59.8 Tuesday,28,August,2012,18:48:56:16803,VCDS Version: Release 11.11.4,Data version: 20120807 Responder
sata Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Denunciar Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Ahora lo pondremos en cristiano,señores. S2 Responder
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jesus20329 Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Autor Denunciar Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Aquie os paso la grafica que sale y los datos =) Responder
jesus20329 Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Autor Denunciar Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 eso es la masa de aire y la pression absoluta real del coche Responder
sata Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Denunciar Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Jesus,....si quieres mándame por mail el archivo,............ y a ver que puedo hacer para que se vea ahí algo claro. Saludos. Responder
jesus20329 Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Autor Denunciar Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 vale, de aqui a un rato intentare mandartelo, ahora tengo faena de casa :ranting2: Responder
Alo Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Denunciar Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 (editado) Ni hace falta, el turbo la clava, mirando los valores de la tabla del programa ese, los datos a capón del excell no hay quien los mire jaja, carga a 1800 rpm empezando a acelerar a 1500 rpm oscila un poquillo pero vamos que está muy bien, y ahora nos dirá si responde antes al empezar a acelerar y no se notan baches de potencia :harhar: jajaja. Editado 28 de Agosto del 2012 por Alo Responder
Alo Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Denunciar Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 (editado) ¿Le tienes cerrada la EGR solo mecanicamente? Editado 28 de Agosto del 2012 por Alo Responder
sata Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Denunciar Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 (editado) Jesus,...has tenido suerte que ha pasado Alo y nos ha sacado de dudas.Yo sinceramente,...con la tabla de datos solamente no me "atrevo" a dar una opinión. Alo,.... a esa conclusión (presión clavada) llegas ¿ al fijarte en este fila ? : Así yo salgo de dudas y aprendo. Si no me equivoco,...la egr la tiene anulada solo mecánicamente.No por que yo lo sepa leer en la tabla,(ahí no llego ni de coña),.....sino porque creo recordar que Jesus me lo dijo por teléfono,je,je,..... Eres un auténtico titán,Alo,............. Jesús,....lo que te he comentado por mail de que el log era un "churro",je,je,...me refería a la forma en que está hecho,...no me mal interpretes.Pero con la info que te pasado,........ seguro que el próximo lo haces de bandera. Saludos. Edito:Enhorabuena Jesus,....tu B5/B8 va como un campeón.Buena recompensa al trabajo de limpiar turbo,cambiar N75,etc,.....que se de buena mano que te ha dado faena y quebraderos de cabeza.Lo dicho,...a disfrutar.. Editado 31 de Agosto del 2012 por duke80 Responder
Alo Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Denunciar Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 (editado) Lo de que el turbo la clava es porque coge rápido la presión y luego la mantiene bien, donde tu has señalado se ve que la coge en apenas 300 rpm que está de lujo. Lo de la EGR os dije que el cauda podía obtener medidas de mas del doble del que debería si solo se anula mecanicamente, aqui se ve eso EGR cerrada un 59 % y lectura del cauda mucho mayor. Editado 28 de Agosto del 2012 por Alo Responder
jesus20329 Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Autor Denunciar Publicado 28 de Agosto del 2012 Gracias Alo, por tu ayuda, y como no a tí también Sata, que ha sido poner el churro de tabla y enseguida has estado al quite, no se me olvida lo tuyo, la semana que viene te lo consigo si o si, Alo, la egr esta cerrada mecanicamente (chapa ciega), Sata me ha informado paso a paso de como anularla con el vag, pero el tema se me hace cuesta arriba y me da acojone, eso de ir cambiando valores, Responder
b5Crew Publicado 29 de Agosto del 2012 Denunciar Publicado 29 de Agosto del 2012 Mi coche también esta anulada mecanicamente y el cauda lee mas de lo que toca igual que nuestro compañero jesus, que campos hay que tocar para anularla ? Gracias =) Responder
sata Publicado 29 de Agosto del 2012 Denunciar Publicado 29 de Agosto del 2012 Mi coche también esta anulada mecanicamente y el cauda lee mas de lo que toca igual que nuestro compañero jesus, que campos hay que tocar para anularla ? Gracias =) Pincha aquí Saludos,b5Crew. Responder
Alo Publicado 29 de Agosto del 2012 Denunciar Publicado 29 de Agosto del 2012 Si quereis anularla del todo pues meter el valor máximo que os deje y listo, en realidad no se anula del todo para eso hay que anular mecanicamente tambien Responder
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